{"id":500,"date":"2020-07-12T16:55:36","date_gmt":"2020-07-12T13:55:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.kahvekulubu.net\/index.php\/?p=500"},"modified":"2021-06-07T00:44:49","modified_gmt":"2021-06-06T21:44:49","slug":"comandante-vs-timemore","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.kahvekulubu.net\/index.php\/2020\/07\/comandante-vs-timemore\/","title":{"rendered":"Comandante vs Timemore"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>El de\u011firmeni ararken kar\u015f\u0131n\u0131za \u00e7\u0131kan 2 de\u011firmeni sorsam, cevap Comandante ve Timemore olur\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Comandante\u2019nin \u00fcn\u00fcnden bahsetmeye gerek yok san\u0131r\u0131m\u2026 Bir \u00e7ok yar\u0131\u015fmac\u0131 taraf\u0131ndan kullan\u0131lan, \u00f6\u011f\u00fctme performas\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan EK43 gibi \u00fcst d\u00fczey de\u011firmenler ile kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131r\u0131lan bir Alman tasar\u0131m\u0131\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Peki Timemore bu yar\u0131\u015f\u0131n neresinde kal\u0131yor? Fiyat fark\u0131na de\u011fer mi? Hangi de\u011firmen kime g\u00f6re?<\/p>\n<p>Bu yaz\u0131mda Comandante C40 ile Timemore C1 \u2018i kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131raca\u011f\u0131m<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<h1>G\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fc\u015f ve Tasar\u0131m:<\/h1>\n<p><!-- \/wp:post-content --><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p>Her iki de\u011firmen de son zamanlarda g\u00f6rmeye al\u0131\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z,<strong> \u00e7ift rulman yatakl\u0131<\/strong> sabitleme sistemini kullan\u0131yor. \u0130ki de\u011firmende de yalpalama ya da merkezleme sorunu <strong>yok<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p>\u0130ki de\u011firmen de kaliteli bir hissiyat veriyor. Bu kategoride Comandante \u00f6zellikle kullan\u0131lan malzeme ve <em>ki\u015fiselle\u015ftirme<\/em> \u00f6zellikleriyle \u00f6n plana \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yor. Comandantede farkl\u0131 renk ve model topuz tasar\u0131mlar\u0131 mevcut. Ayr\u0131ca g\u00f6vdedeki ah\u015fap kaplama i\u00e7in de farkl\u0131 renk ve modeller mevcut.<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p>!<em>Comandante ile Timemore aras\u0131nda 3 kat fiyat fark\u0131 oldu\u011funu belirtmek laz\u0131m.<\/em>!<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<h1>Boyutlar:<\/h1>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p>Timemore daha k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck, ince ve hafif. Ele rahat oturuyor. G\u00f6vdedeki desenli tasar\u0131m, tutmay\u0131 kolayla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131yor.<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p>Comandantenin g\u00f6vde \u00e7ap\u0131 ve a\u011f\u0131rl\u0131\u011f\u0131 daha fazla. Bunda \u00f6\u011f\u00fctme kapasitesinin y\u00fcksek olmas\u0131n\u0131n etkisi var. Eliniz k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fckse sizi biraz zorlayabilir. \ud83d\ude0a<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:image {\"id\":513,\"width\":391,\"height\":391,\"sizeSlug\":\"large\"} --><\/p>\n<figure><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.kahvekulubu.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/20200712_154046-1-500x500.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"391\" height=\"391\" \/><\/figure>\n<p><!-- \/wp:image --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:image {\"id\":515,\"width\":387,\"height\":387,\"sizeSlug\":\"large\"} --><\/p>\n<figure><img decoding=\"async\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.kahvekulubu.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/20200712_154216-2-500x500.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"387\" height=\"387\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" class=\"lazyload\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 387px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 387\/387;\" \/><\/figure>\n<p><!-- \/wp:image --><\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<h1>\u00d6\u011f\u00fctme Kolu:<\/h1>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:list --><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Timemore C1:<\/strong> \u00d6\u011f\u00fctme kolu g\u00f6vdedeki milin \u00fcst k\u0131sm\u0131na ge\u00e7meli olarak sabitleniyor. Bazen gev\u015feme yapabiliyor ama \u00f6\u011f\u00fct\u00fcrken hi\u00e7 \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131\u011f\u0131 olmad\u0131.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Comandante:<\/strong> \u00d6\u011f\u00fctme kolu g\u00f6vdedeki milin \u00fcst k\u0131sm\u0131na bir<br \/><em>m\u0131knat\u0131s <\/em>yard\u0131m\u0131yla ge\u00e7meli olarak sabitleniyor. Daha iyi bir kavrama sa\u011fl\u0131yor.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><!-- \/wp:list --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p>\u0130ki de\u011firmende de \u00f6\u011f\u00fctme kollar\u0131n\u0131n uzunlu\u011fu benzer. \u0130ki de\u011firmen de <strong>ergonomik <\/strong>ve kolay bir \u00f6\u011f\u00fct\u00fcm sunuyor.<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:image {\"id\":517,\"width\":380,\"height\":380,\"sizeSlug\":\"large\"} --><\/p>\n<figure><img decoding=\"async\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.kahvekulubu.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/20200712_154403-1-500x500.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"380\" height=\"380\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" class=\"lazyload\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 380px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 380\/380;\" \/>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figcaption>Comandantede milin etraf\u0131ndaki bo\u015flu\u011fa bazen \u00e7ekridek girebiliyor. \u00d6zellikle k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck olan Heirloom tarz\u0131 \u00e7ekirdekler \ud83d\ude42<\/figcaption>\n<\/figure>\n<p><!-- \/wp:image --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:image {\"id\":542,\"width\":204,\"height\":293,\"sizeSlug\":\"large\"} --><\/p>\n<figure><img decoding=\"async\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.kahvekulubu.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/20200712_1544033-348x500.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"204\" height=\"293\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" class=\"lazyload\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 204px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 204\/293;\" \/><\/figure>\n<p><!-- \/wp:image --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:heading {\"level\":1} --><\/p>\n<h1>\u00d6\u011f\u00fctme Haznesi:<\/h1>\n<p><!-- \/wp:heading --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:list --><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Timemore C1:<\/strong> C1 modelinde i\u00e7i plastik, d\u0131\u015f\u0131 aluminyum olarak \u00fcretilen hazne, C2 modelinde tamamen al\u00fcminyum olarak g\u00fcncellendi.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Comandante:<\/strong> Hazne 2 farkl\u0131 renkte cam olarak geliyor. Saydam ve koyu kahverengi. Bu da <em>daha az statik<\/em> demek.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><!-- \/wp:list --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:heading {\"level\":1} --><\/p>\n<h1>Ayar Vidas\u0131:<\/h1>\n<p><!-- \/wp:heading --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p>\u0130ki de\u011firmende de ayar mekanizmas\u0131n\u0131 kontrol eden vida plastikten yap\u0131lm\u0131\u015f. Timemore C1 de <strong>statik <\/strong>kaynakl\u0131 yap\u0131\u015fmalar bu b\u00f6lgede oluyor. Comandante de ise b\u00f6yle bir sorun olu\u015fmuyor.<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:list --><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Timemore un vidas\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7evirmek Comandante\u2019ye g\u00f6re daha kolay.<\/li>\n<li>Comandante\u2019nin klik ayar\u0131n\u0131 yaparken \u00e7\u0131kan ses de \u00e7ok farkl\u0131 bir hissiyat veriyor\ud83d\ude0a<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><!-- \/wp:list --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:heading {\"level\":1} --><\/p>\n<h1>Kesici (Burr):<\/h1>\n<p><!-- \/wp:heading --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p>Her iki \u00f6\u011f\u00fct\u00fcc\u00fcn\u00fcn de kalbinde konik \u00e7elik kesici (burr) kullan\u0131l\u0131yor. Kesici tasar\u0131mlar\u0131 birbirinden tamamen farkl\u0131.<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:list --><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Timemore da <strong>38 mm \u00e7apl\u0131 \u00e7elik <\/strong>bir kesici kullan\u0131l\u0131yor.<\/li>\n<li>Comandante ise <strong>39 mm \u00e7apl\u0131, nitrojen ala\u015f\u0131ml\u0131 patentli \u00e7elik <\/strong>bir kesici var. <em>Comandantenin en iddaal\u0131 oldu\u011fu ve fark yaratt\u0131\u011f\u0131 k\u0131s\u0131m buras\u0131. <\/em>\u00d6\u011f\u00fct\u00fcm k\u0131sm\u0131nda de\u011finece\u011fim.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><!-- \/wp:list --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:image {\"id\":516,\"width\":387,\"height\":387,\"sizeSlug\":\"large\"} --><\/p>\n<figure><img decoding=\"async\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.kahvekulubu.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/20200712_153023-500x500.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"387\" height=\"387\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" class=\"lazyload\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 387px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 387\/387;\" \/><\/figure>\n<p><!-- \/wp:image --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:heading {\"level\":1} --><\/p>\n<h1>\u00d6\u011f\u00fct\u00fcm H\u0131z\u0131:<\/h1>\n<p><!-- \/wp:heading --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><strong>Timemore C1:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:list --><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\u00c7ekirdekler hazneye \u00e7ok kolay giriyor ve burr tasar\u0131m\u0131 sayesinde h\u0131zl\u0131ca \u00f6\u011f\u00fct\u00fcl\u00fcyor.<\/li>\n<li>V60 i\u00e7in <em>saniyede 0.7-0.8 gram<\/em>a kadar \u00e7ekirdek \u00f6\u011f\u00fctmeniz m\u00fcmk\u00fcn. <em>\u00a0Tur ba\u015f\u0131na 2 \u00e7ekirdek<\/em> diyebiliriz.<\/li>\n<li><strong>20 klikte (V60 ayar\u0131) 15 gram \u00e7ekirde\u011fi, 25 saniye civar\u0131nda \u00f6\u011f\u00fctebilirsiniz.<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><!-- \/wp:list --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><strong>Comandante :<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:list --><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Benzer bir V60 ayar\u0131 i\u00e7in, <strong>15 gram \u00e7ekirde\u011fi \u00f6\u011f\u00fctmek 35 saniye <\/strong>civar\u0131nda s\u00fcr\u00fcyor. \u00a0<\/li>\n<li><em>0.4-0.5 gram\/saniye<\/em> civar\u0131 ya da <em>tur ba\u015f\u0131na 1 \u00e7ekirdek<\/em> civar\u0131 diyebiliriz.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><!-- \/wp:list --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph {\"textColor\":\"vivid-red\"} --><\/p>\n<p>\u0130nce ayarlara indik\u00e7e, Timemore da s\u00fcre 4-5 kat\u0131na \u00e7\u0131karken, Comandante de bu s\u00fcre sadece 2 kat\u0131na \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yor. Timemore da belli bir klik alt\u0131na inildi\u011finde ise, \u00f6\u011f\u00fctme s\u00fcreleri 4-5 dk y\u0131 bulabiliyor. Hatta 10 klik alt\u0131na inildi\u011finde, \u00e7ekirdek hazneye al\u0131nam\u0131yor ve s\u00fcreler 8-10dk ya kadar \u00e7\u0131kabiliyor. T\u00fcrk Kahvesi ve Espresso ayarlar\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7ok ince yapmak isterseniz, Timemore da zorlanabilirsiniz. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:heading {\"level\":1} --><\/p>\n<h1>\u00d6\u011f\u00fct\u00fcm Kalitesi:<\/h1>\n<p><!-- \/wp:heading --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p>Bu k\u0131s\u0131m biraz g\u00f6receli. Elimde test yapabilece\u011fim pahal\u0131 ekipmanlar yok ama deneyimlerimi aktarmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015faca\u011f\u0131m.<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p>Benzer ayarlarda, ayn\u0131 kahve ile, ayn\u0131 V60 demlemesini yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131mda, Timemore ile \u00f6\u011f\u00fct\u00fclen kahveler ile demlemen fincanlar, Comandanteye g\u00f6re <em>daha fazla \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcnm\u00fc\u015f (over extracted)<\/em> olabiliyor. \u00d6zellikle toz \u00e7\u0131karma e\u011filimi olan ve do\u011fal i\u015flenmi\u015f \u00e7ekirdeklerde bu fark daha g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcr. Demleme sonlar\u0131nda kahve yata\u011f\u0131n\u0131n \u00fcst\u00fcndeki \u00e7amursu tabakadan, Timemore un <em>daha \u00e7ok toz<\/em> \u00fcretti\u011fini ve bunun da over extraction a sebep oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yleyebilirim. \u00a0Comandante \u00f6\u011f\u00fct\u00fcmleri kendi tecr\u00fcbeme g\u00f6re daha homojen. Comandante daha dengeli fincanlar sunuyor.<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph {\"textColor\":\"vivid-red\"} --><\/p>\n<p><strong>Not:<\/strong> Burada bahsetti\u011fim fark\u0131 anlamak i\u00e7in, \u00e7ok fazla kahve i\u00e7mek, kahvenin kimyas\u0131n\u0131 anlamak ve ekipmanlar\u0131n kahve ile etkile\u015fimini iyi bilmek gerekiyor. Demlemeye yeni ba\u015flayan ya da orta seviyede bir kahve sever i\u00e7in, bunlar\u0131 ay\u0131rt etmek biraz zaman alabilir.<\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:heading {\"level\":1} --><\/p>\n<h1>Hangi de\u011firmen kime g\u00f6re?<\/h1>\n<p><!-- \/wp:heading --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><strong>Timemore:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:list --><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Nitelikli kahve d\u00fcnyas\u0131na yeni ad\u0131m atan ya da orta seviye bir kahvesever iseniz, Timemore gibi \u00e7elik burr kullanan bir de\u011firmeni, \u00f6zellikle filtre \u00f6\u011f\u00fct\u00fcmleri i\u00e7in rahatl\u0131kla \u00f6nerebilirim.<\/li>\n<li>Espresso ve T\u00fcrk kahvesi de benim i\u00e7in \u00f6nemli diyorsan\u0131z, biraz yorulmay\u0131 g\u00f6ze alman\u0131z laz\u0131m.<\/li>\n<li>B\u00fct\u00e7eniz k\u0131s\u0131tlaysa, yine Timemore imdad\u0131n\u0131za yeti\u015febilir ve keyifle kahve i\u00e7ebilirsiniz.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><!-- \/wp:list --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><strong>Comandante:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:list --><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\u0130leri seviye bir kahveseverseniz, detaylara \u00f6nem veriyor ve m\u00fckemmel fincanlar\u0131 hedefliyorsan\u0131z, Comandante size g\u00f6re.<\/li>\n<li>Uzun s\u00fcre kullanabilece\u011finiz ve memnun kalaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131z bir \u00f6\u011f\u00fct\u00fcc\u00fc, tabi kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131nda belli bir mebla\u011f \u00f6demeyi kabul etmeniz gerekiyor.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><!-- \/wp:list --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:image {\"id\":538,\"width\":315,\"height\":419,\"sizeSlug\":\"large\"} --><\/p>\n<figure><img decoding=\"async\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.kahvekulubu.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/20200624_093026-3-375x500.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"315\" height=\"419\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" class=\"lazyload\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 315px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 315\/419;\" \/><\/figure>\n<p><!-- \/wp:image --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:table --><\/p>\n<figure>\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Comandante C40<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Timemore C<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>\u00c7ap (mm)<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>60<\/td>\n<td>52<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Y\u00fckseklik (mm)<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>161<\/td>\n<td>147<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>A\u011f\u0131rl\u0131k (gr)<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>630<\/td>\n<td>430<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Kesici (Burr) \u00c7ap\u0131 (mm)<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>39<\/td>\n<td>38<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Burr Tipi ve Malzemesi<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>Konik<br \/>Nitrojen ala\u015f\u0131m y\u00fcksek dayan\u0131ml\u0131 \u00e7elik<\/td>\n<td>Konik<br \/>\u00c7elik<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>G\u00f6vde<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>\u00c7elik \u00fcst\u00fc a\u011fa\u00e7 kaplama<\/td>\n<td>Plastik \u00fcst\u00fc desenli aluminyum<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>\u0130\u00e7 Aksam<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>\u00c7elik ve plastik<\/td>\n<td>Plastik<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Hazne<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>Cam<br \/>(2 renk, saydam ve koyu kahverengi)<\/td>\n<td>C1 Plastik \u00fcst\u00fc desenli aluminyum<br \/>C2 i\u00e7in tamamen aluminyum<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Kapasite (gr)<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>40-45<\/td>\n<td>25-30<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Ayar Vidas\u0131<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>Plastik<\/td>\n<td>Plastik<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Mil<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>\u00c7elik<\/td>\n<td>\u00c7elik<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Yataklama<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>\u00c7ift rulmanl\u0131<\/td>\n<td>\u00c7ift rulmanl\u0131<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>\u00d6\u011f\u00fctme Kolu<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>\u00c7elik<\/td>\n<td>\u00c7elik<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Topuz<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>Ah\u015fap, m\u0131ktan\u0131s ile mile sabitleniyor.<\/td>\n<td>Plastik, mile ge\u00e7meli ba\u011flan\u0131yor<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Kapak<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>\u0130nce plastik<\/td>\n<td>Kal\u0131n plastik<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Ki\u015fiselle\u015ftirme<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>G\u00f6vde ve topuz i\u00e7in renk ve model se\u00e7enekleri var<\/td>\n<td>Yok<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Statik<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>Burr etraf\u0131nda belli berlirsiz<\/td>\n<td>Ayar vidas\u0131 etraf\u0131nda mevcut<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/figure>\n<p><!-- \/wp:table --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:block {\"ref\":777} \/--><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- \/wp:paragraph --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:block {\"ref\":777} \/--><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:block {\"ref\":777} \/--><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:heading --><\/p>\n<h2>Levent \u00d6nc\u00fc<\/h2>\n<p><!-- \/wp:heading --><\/p>\n<p><!-- wp:block {\"ref\":761} \/--><\/p>\n\n<!-- wp:media-text {\"mediaId\":822,\"mediaLink\":\"https:\/\/www.kahvekulubu.net\/index.php\/2020\/07\/comandante-vs-timemore\/levent\/\",\"mediaType\":\"image\",\"mediaWidth\":28} -->\n<div class=\"wp-block-media-text alignwide is-stacked-on-mobile\" style=\"grid-template-columns:28% auto\"><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.kahvekulubu.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/levent-500x500.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-822 size-full lazyload\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.kahvekulubu.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/levent-500x500.png 500w, https:\/\/www.kahvekulubu.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/levent-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.kahvekulubu.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/levent-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.kahvekulubu.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/levent-75x75.png 75w, https:\/\/www.kahvekulubu.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/levent-50x50.png 50w, https:\/\/www.kahvekulubu.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/levent.png 843w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 500px; 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Yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 ekipman, kahve incelemeleri, sekt\u00f6r profesyonelleri r\u00f6portajlar\u0131 ve blog yaz\u0131lar\u0131 ile kahve camias\u0131na g\u00f6n\u00fcll\u00fc olarak katk\u0131 sa\u011flamaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yor. El de\u011firmenleri ve pour over konusunda deneyimli.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:social-links -->\n<ul class=\"wp-block-social-links\"><!-- wp:social-link {\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/teyyaredenkahve\",\"service\":\"instagram\"} \/-->\n\n<!-- wp:social-link {\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCnxv5y2f_fTwtAg0w-xYMtQ\",\"service\":\"youtube\"} \/--><\/ul>\n<!-- \/wp:social-links --><\/div><\/div>\n<!-- \/wp:media-text -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>El de\u011firmeni ararken kar\u015f\u0131n\u0131za \u00e7\u0131kan 2 de\u011firmeni sorsam, cevap Comandante ve Timemore olur\u2026 Comandante\u2019nin \u00fcn\u00fcnden bahsetmeye gerek yok san\u0131r\u0131m\u2026 Bir \u00e7ok yar\u0131\u015fmac\u0131 taraf\u0131ndan kullan\u0131lan, \u00f6\u011f\u00fctme performas\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan EK43 gibi \u00fcst d\u00fczey de\u011firmenler ile kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131r\u0131lan bir Alman tasar\u0131m\u0131\u2026 Peki Timemore bu yar\u0131\u015f\u0131n neresinde kal\u0131yor? Fiyat fark\u0131na de\u011fer mi? Hangi de\u011firmen kime g\u00f6re? Bu yaz\u0131mda Comandante C40 ile Timemore C1 \u2018i kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131raca\u011f\u0131m \u00a0 G\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fc\u015f ve Tasar\u0131m: Her iki de\u011firmen de son zamanlarda g\u00f6rmeye al\u0131\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z, \u00e7ift rulman yatakl\u0131 sabitleme sistemini kullan\u0131yor. \u0130ki de\u011firmende de yalpalama ya da merkezleme sorunu yok. \u0130ki de\u011firmen de kaliteli bir hissiyat veriyor. Bu kategoride Comandante \u00f6zellikle kullan\u0131lan malzeme ve ki\u015fiselle\u015ftirme \u00f6zellikleriyle \u00f6n plana \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yor. Comandantede farkl\u0131 renk ve model topuz tasar\u0131mlar\u0131 mevcut. Ayr\u0131ca g\u00f6vdedeki ah\u015fap kaplama i\u00e7in de farkl\u0131 renk ve modeller mevcut. !Comandante ile Timemore aras\u0131nda 3 kat fiyat fark\u0131 oldu\u011funu belirtmek laz\u0131m.! Boyutlar: Timemore daha k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck, ince ve hafif. Ele rahat oturuyor. G\u00f6vdedeki desenli tasar\u0131m, tutmay\u0131 kolayla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131yor. Comandantenin g\u00f6vde \u00e7ap\u0131 ve a\u011f\u0131rl\u0131\u011f\u0131 daha fazla. Bunda \u00f6\u011f\u00fctme kapasitesinin y\u00fcksek olmas\u0131n\u0131n etkisi var. Eliniz k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fckse sizi biraz zorlayabilir. \ud83d\ude0a \u00a0 \u00d6\u011f\u00fctme Kolu: Timemore C1: \u00d6\u011f\u00fctme kolu g\u00f6vdedeki milin \u00fcst k\u0131sm\u0131na ge\u00e7meli olarak sabitleniyor. Bazen gev\u015feme yapabiliyor ama \u00f6\u011f\u00fct\u00fcrken hi\u00e7 \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131\u011f\u0131 olmad\u0131. Comandante: \u00d6\u011f\u00fctme kolu g\u00f6vdedeki milin \u00fcst k\u0131sm\u0131na birm\u0131knat\u0131s yard\u0131m\u0131yla ge\u00e7meli olarak sabitleniyor. Daha iyi bir kavrama sa\u011fl\u0131yor. \u0130ki de\u011firmende de \u00f6\u011f\u00fctme kollar\u0131n\u0131n uzunlu\u011fu benzer. \u0130ki de\u011firmen de ergonomik ve kolay bir \u00f6\u011f\u00fct\u00fcm sunuyor. \u00a0Comandantede milin etraf\u0131ndaki bo\u015flu\u011fa bazen \u00e7ekridek girebiliyor. \u00d6zellikle k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck olan Heirloom tarz\u0131 \u00e7ekirdekler \ud83d\ude42 \u00d6\u011f\u00fctme Haznesi: Timemore C1: C1 modelinde i\u00e7i plastik, d\u0131\u015f\u0131 aluminyum olarak \u00fcretilen hazne, C2 modelinde tamamen al\u00fcminyum olarak g\u00fcncellendi. Comandante: Hazne 2 farkl\u0131 renkte cam olarak geliyor. Saydam ve koyu kahverengi. Bu da daha az statik demek. Ayar Vidas\u0131: \u0130ki de\u011firmende de ayar mekanizmas\u0131n\u0131 kontrol eden vida plastikten yap\u0131lm\u0131\u015f. Timemore C1 de statik kaynakl\u0131 yap\u0131\u015fmalar bu b\u00f6lgede oluyor. Comandante de ise b\u00f6yle bir sorun olu\u015fmuyor. Timemore un vidas\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7evirmek Comandante\u2019ye g\u00f6re daha kolay. Comandante\u2019nin klik ayar\u0131n\u0131 yaparken \u00e7\u0131kan ses de \u00e7ok farkl\u0131 bir hissiyat veriyor\ud83d\ude0a Kesici (Burr): Her iki \u00f6\u011f\u00fct\u00fcc\u00fcn\u00fcn de kalbinde konik \u00e7elik kesici (burr) kullan\u0131l\u0131yor. Kesici tasar\u0131mlar\u0131 birbirinden tamamen farkl\u0131. Timemore da 38 mm \u00e7apl\u0131 \u00e7elik bir kesici kullan\u0131l\u0131yor. Comandante ise 39 mm \u00e7apl\u0131, nitrojen ala\u015f\u0131ml\u0131 patentli \u00e7elik bir kesici var. Comandantenin en iddaal\u0131 oldu\u011fu ve fark yaratt\u0131\u011f\u0131 k\u0131s\u0131m buras\u0131. \u00d6\u011f\u00fct\u00fcm k\u0131sm\u0131nda de\u011finece\u011fim. \u00d6\u011f\u00fct\u00fcm H\u0131z\u0131: Timemore C1: \u00c7ekirdekler hazneye \u00e7ok kolay giriyor ve burr tasar\u0131m\u0131 sayesinde h\u0131zl\u0131ca \u00f6\u011f\u00fct\u00fcl\u00fcyor. V60 i\u00e7in saniyede 0.7-0.8 grama kadar \u00e7ekirdek \u00f6\u011f\u00fctmeniz m\u00fcmk\u00fcn. \u00a0Tur ba\u015f\u0131na 2 \u00e7ekirdek diyebiliriz. 20 klikte (V60 ayar\u0131) 15 gram \u00e7ekirde\u011fi, 25 saniye civar\u0131nda \u00f6\u011f\u00fctebilirsiniz. Comandante : Benzer bir V60 ayar\u0131 i\u00e7in, 15 gram \u00e7ekirde\u011fi \u00f6\u011f\u00fctmek 35 saniye civar\u0131nda s\u00fcr\u00fcyor. \u00a0 0.4-0.5 gram\/saniye civar\u0131 ya da tur ba\u015f\u0131na 1 \u00e7ekirdek civar\u0131 diyebiliriz. \u0130nce ayarlara indik\u00e7e, Timemore da s\u00fcre 4-5 kat\u0131na \u00e7\u0131karken, Comandante de bu s\u00fcre sadece 2 kat\u0131na \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yor. Timemore da belli bir klik alt\u0131na inildi\u011finde ise, \u00f6\u011f\u00fctme s\u00fcreleri 4-5 dk y\u0131 bulabiliyor. Hatta 10 klik alt\u0131na inildi\u011finde, \u00e7ekirdek hazneye al\u0131nam\u0131yor ve s\u00fcreler 8-10dk ya kadar \u00e7\u0131kabiliyor. T\u00fcrk Kahvesi ve Espresso ayarlar\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7ok ince yapmak isterseniz, Timemore da zorlanabilirsiniz. \u00a0 \u00d6\u011f\u00fct\u00fcm Kalitesi: Bu k\u0131s\u0131m biraz g\u00f6receli. Elimde test yapabilece\u011fim pahal\u0131 ekipmanlar yok ama deneyimlerimi aktarmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015faca\u011f\u0131m. Benzer ayarlarda, ayn\u0131 kahve ile, ayn\u0131 V60 demlemesini yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131mda, Timemore ile \u00f6\u011f\u00fct\u00fclen kahveler ile demlemen fincanlar, Comandanteye g\u00f6re daha fazla \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcnm\u00fc\u015f (over extracted) olabiliyor. \u00d6zellikle toz \u00e7\u0131karma e\u011filimi olan ve do\u011fal i\u015flenmi\u015f \u00e7ekirdeklerde bu fark daha g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcr. Demleme sonlar\u0131nda kahve yata\u011f\u0131n\u0131n \u00fcst\u00fcndeki \u00e7amursu tabakadan, Timemore un daha \u00e7ok toz \u00fcretti\u011fini ve bunun da over extraction a sebep oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yleyebilirim. \u00a0Comandante \u00f6\u011f\u00fct\u00fcmleri kendi tecr\u00fcbeme g\u00f6re daha homojen. Comandante daha dengeli fincanlar sunuyor. Not: Burada bahsetti\u011fim fark\u0131 anlamak i\u00e7in, \u00e7ok fazla kahve i\u00e7mek, kahvenin kimyas\u0131n\u0131 anlamak ve ekipmanlar\u0131n kahve ile etkile\u015fimini iyi bilmek gerekiyor. Demlemeye yeni ba\u015flayan ya da orta seviyede bir kahve sever i\u00e7in, bunlar\u0131 ay\u0131rt etmek biraz zaman alabilir. Hangi de\u011firmen kime g\u00f6re? Timemore: Nitelikli kahve d\u00fcnyas\u0131na yeni ad\u0131m atan ya da orta seviye bir kahvesever iseniz, Timemore gibi \u00e7elik burr kullanan bir de\u011firmeni, \u00f6zellikle filtre \u00f6\u011f\u00fct\u00fcmleri i\u00e7in rahatl\u0131kla \u00f6nerebilirim. Espresso ve T\u00fcrk kahvesi de benim i\u00e7in \u00f6nemli diyorsan\u0131z, biraz yorulmay\u0131 g\u00f6ze alman\u0131z laz\u0131m. B\u00fct\u00e7eniz k\u0131s\u0131tlaysa, yine Timemore imdad\u0131n\u0131za yeti\u015febilir ve keyifle kahve i\u00e7ebilirsiniz. Comandante: \u0130leri seviye bir kahveseverseniz, detaylara \u00f6nem veriyor ve m\u00fckemmel fincanlar\u0131 hedefliyorsan\u0131z, Comandante size g\u00f6re. Uzun s\u00fcre kullanabilece\u011finiz ve memnun kalaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131z bir \u00f6\u011f\u00fct\u00fcc\u00fc, tabi kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131nda belli bir mebla\u011f \u00f6demeyi kabul etmeniz gerekiyor. \u00a0 Comandante C40 Timemore C \u00c7ap (mm) 60 52 Y\u00fckseklik (mm) 161 147 A\u011f\u0131rl\u0131k (gr) 630 430 Kesici (Burr) \u00c7ap\u0131 (mm) 39 38 Burr Tipi ve Malzemesi KonikNitrojen ala\u015f\u0131m y\u00fcksek dayan\u0131ml\u0131 \u00e7elik Konik\u00c7elik G\u00f6vde \u00c7elik \u00fcst\u00fc a\u011fa\u00e7 kaplama Plastik \u00fcst\u00fc desenli aluminyum \u0130\u00e7 Aksam \u00c7elik ve plastik Plastik Hazne Cam(2 renk, saydam ve koyu kahverengi) C1 Plastik \u00fcst\u00fc desenli aluminyumC2 i\u00e7in tamamen aluminyum Kapasite (gr) 40-45 25-30 Ayar Vidas\u0131 Plastik Plastik Mil \u00c7elik \u00c7elik Yataklama \u00c7ift rulmanl\u0131 \u00c7ift rulmanl\u0131 \u00d6\u011f\u00fctme Kolu \u00c7elik \u00c7elik Topuz Ah\u015fap, m\u0131ktan\u0131s ile mile sabitleniyor. 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